the obama campaign had a great operation in place. while we sit back and figure when republicans will revive, between the establishment wing and the tea party wing, i am for the tea party one. keep going. i like these candidate. they make me look sane. [laughter] >> i would not exaggerate, donna. the truth of the matter is both political parties are in pretty rough shape. while the republicans have 10%, we have 30%. 2014 is important for the democratic party. we have to look at the electorate and make sure that our message and future messages will galvanize and motivate those to turn out voters as well. >> how long is the democratic party the party of barack obama? when does that shift so it goes back to the clinton era, if hillary chooses to run? when does that shift take place? >> as a president goes through a second term, interest in the president starts to go to the congressional wing of the party. what obama is trying to achieve for his legacy does not necessarily line up with what congressional democrats are interested in, in ma